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<h1>Velocityme Minutes 27</h1>
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       <th valign="top" bgcolor="#cccccc">Date<br>
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                     <td valign="top">2002-05-14<br>
    12h00-12h50 (UK)<br>
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                     <td valign="top">AIM Messenger<br>
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                     <td valign="top">Robert Crida (RC)<br>
               Barry Radloff (BR)<br>
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                     <td valign="top">David Spencer (DS)</td>
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You have just entered the room "barryradloff chat 66"<br>
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<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:08:20 PM)</span></b>: </font>Hi Barry, you made
it!<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:08:30 PM)</span></b>: </font><font
 color="#000000">Hi Rob</font><br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:08:31 PM)</span></b>: </font><font
 color="#000000">yep</font><br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:08:53 PM)</span></b>: </font>Was it a serious
call last night, nothing too serious!?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:09:09 PM)</span></b>: </font>very serious<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:09:20 PM)</span></b>: </font>Oh dear, I hope
everything is alright?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:09:33 PM)</span></b>: </font>Paul is going thru
the mandatory I'm Chinese in SA phase all chinese pppl go thru<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:10:02 PM)</span></b>: </font>He will eventually
learn to be who he is<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:10:38 PM)</span></b>: </font>Sorry someone just
distracted me, hope Paul gets himself sorted out OK<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:10:56 PM)</span></b>: </font>Its tough sometimes
because you arent always fully accepted because of your race and at school
ppl are quite clicky<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:11:33 PM)</span></b>: </font>I guess that I am
just lucky not to ever have experience that particularproblem. I have been
not accepted for other (minor) things and know it isnot nice.<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:11:39 PM)</span></b>: </font>sorry on the phone<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:11:55 PM)</span></b>: </font>OK, can we move
on to the meeting when you are ready?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:12:03 PM)</span></b>: </font>ok<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:12:33 PM)</span></b>: </font>let me start with
a short update<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:12:33 PM)</span></b>: </font>I was just wondering
if you could let me know what progress you have managed to make since last
week?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:12:39 PM)</span></b>: </font>ha ha<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:13:13 PM)</span></b>: </font>Aha! did you successfully
get my update yesterday?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:13:26 PM)</span></b>: </font>ok then. no real
progress has been made I finallymanaged to download all the source at home
at 2 in the morning so its a goodthing we missed last nightes meeting<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:13:57 PM)</span></b>: </font>OK, sorry you are
having so much internet trouble. If you want me to send stuff any differently
then let me know<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:14:14 PM)</span></b>: </font>The weekend was
totally non productive and that iswhy I am going to miss bball 2nite(and
other reasons) to try do some serioouscatchup<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:15:01 PM)</span></b>: </font>The things that
all go awry when you have a little kid, they rule your life don't they  <img
 src="chrome://editor/content/images/wink_n.gif" class="moz-txt-smily"
 height="19" width="19" align="middle">
  in a good way of course<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:15:44 PM)</span></b>: </font>I (un)fortunately
have a similar prob to you with regads to spouse availability and yes <b>minor</b>
responsibilities<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:16:01 PM)</span></b>: </font>Anyway, shall I
give you a rundown on what I managed to do in the last week?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:16:19 PM)</span></b>: </font>OK<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:16:34 PM)</span></b>: </font>Not an awful lot
since I spent a fair bit of time refactoring<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:16:52 PM)</span></b>: </font>Basically extended
use of value objects to pass data to client in which made interfaces neater<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:17:36 PM)</span></b>: </font>When filling comboboxes
I wanted to put the value object in insteadof a string as when it is chosen
I know exactly which object they selectedbecause it contains the ID. Should
just use toString<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:18:03 PM)</span></b>: </font>Unfortunately, default
toString provided by value object is not very pretty so had to come up with
a way around it.<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:18:20 PM)</span></b>: </font>Am extending the
class and overriding toString. Not the neatest solution but it works.<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:19:00 PM)</span></b>: </font>So the current situation
is that you can see the state and status andtask state machine for actions
and projects and can change state to anotherlegal state and the change is
logged.<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:19:06 PM)</span></b>: </font>That's about it
really.<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:19:23 PM)</span></b>: </font>got a call<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:20:33 PM)</span></b>: </font>The obvious things
that are outstanding at the moment are the inabilityto assign and manage
user accesses and no ability to edit the task statemachine.<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:20:37 PM)</span></b>: </font> Other than that
it is simple stuff like prettier XML handling for change log and adding issue
bean<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:23:38 PM)</span></b>: </font>Ok back again sorry<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:23:51 PM)</span></b>: </font>one comment on the
gui<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:23:57 PM)</span></b>: </font>Yup<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:24:08 PM)</span></b>: </font>why did you use
textareas instead of textfields?<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:24:22 PM)</span></b>: </font>In the tables?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:24:36 PM)</span></b>: </font>no in the forms
for eg username <br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:25:18 PM)</span></b>: </font>I just noticed it
because of the behaviour of the field while tabbing<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:25:19 PM)</span></b>: </font>I thought that I
had used text edit panes. Think I only used textarea for table cells, could
be wrong, but GUI is not very<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:25:41 PM)</span></b>: </font>What rule should
I use for selecting those components?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:25:51 PM)</span></b>: </font>I will try look
at the code 2nite and see <br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:26:03 PM)</span></b>: </font>normally short fields
use a JTextField<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:26:21 PM)</span></b>: </font>OK, would that be
suitable for a multiline description too?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:26:31 PM)</span></b>: </font>and longer descriptions
that need <enter> etc I would use JTextArea<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:26:48 PM)</span></b>: </font>JTextField is normally
for single line stuff<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:27:07 PM)</span></b>: </font>OK, have seen some
stuff to make textarea work nicely with wordwrappingetc which will be useful
for descrtiptions but I haven't added it yet.<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:27:34 PM)</span></b>: </font>Its quite easy just
add it to a JScrollPane<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:28:03 PM)</span></b>: </font>It wraps it  for
you... I think I will try it again, but I am sure it does<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:28:12 PM)</span></b>: </font>Could do, anyway
at this point I am trying not to spend too much time on GUI but rather get
the underlying technology working.<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:28:31 PM)</span></b>: </font>OK<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:28:32 PM)</span></b>: </font>I don;t mind if
we change these things at all, I just did what worked<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:28:52 PM)</span></b>: </font>I think I should
get quite a bit done 2nite if La is user friendly <img
 src="chrome://editor/content/images/smile_n.gif" class="moz-txt-smily"
 height="19" width="19" align="middle">
<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:29:27 PM)</span></b>: </font>I do feel like I
am quite a way back from you at the moment and at work aint helping much<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:29:39 PM)</span></b>: </font>That will be good.
I suggest that you take a look at the Node and Userentity beans and then
if you are brave consider making Department and Organisationby copying User<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:30:14 PM)</span></b>: </font>so what are you
planning on watching?<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:30:49 PM)</span></b>: </font>We got Kate and
Leopold out of the library and watched it on Saturday.Dani really liked it
and it also has a director's cut so guess what we arewatching tonight!<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:31:17 PM)</span></b>: </font>mmm thats with that
ausie bloke isnt it?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:31:32 PM)</span></b>: </font>the one that plays
wolverine in Xmen<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:31:40 PM)</span></b>: </font>Exactly!<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:31:57 PM)</span></b>: </font>oh well as long
as you enjoy it <img src="chrome://editor/content/images/wink_n.gif"
 class="moz-txt-smily" height="19" width="19" align="middle">
<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:32:05 PM)</span></b>: </font>Yup<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:32:26 PM)</span></b>: </font>How much experience
do you have with xml in java?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:32:28 PM)</span></b>: </font>ok then a way forward,
it seems that I am moving slowly but I am moving at least<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:32:52 PM)</span></b>: </font>Yes, you are moving,
you actually know what the applicatio looks like!<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:33:06 PM)</span></b>: </font>ha ha plonk<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:33:21 PM)</span></b>: </font>mm a little I can
parse and create objects<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:33:29 PM)</span></b>: </font>That was a big step!
Took me 2 weeks just to be able to compile!<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:33:32 PM)</span></b>: </font>I use for configuration
files at work<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:34:01 PM)</span></b>: </font>With regard to xml,
can you find out what libraries are needed andlook into infrastructure required
to create and parse xml for change logs?<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:34:06 PM)</span></b>: </font>Can be your backup
task!<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:34:24 PM)</span></b>: </font>dont need any diff
libs, just install the j2ee<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:34:39 PM)</span></b>: </font>you can optionally
download extra dom libraries<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:35:13 PM)</span></b>: </font>depending on what
functionality you want, but the SAX and DOM standards are implemented, you
just need to know where to look<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:35:43 PM)</span></b>: </font>That's cool, if
that is adequate then you can look also at the class used to create the change
log xml and make it real xml! <br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:35:45 PM)</span></b>: </font>Also then need to
look at the client code to make it parse it properly and display it nicely
in the change log tables<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:36:13 PM)</span></b>: </font>ok I will try get
a round to that<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:36:33 PM)</span></b>: </font>what xml  format
do you want in the log file<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:37:19 PM)</span></b>: </font>Hmm, take a look
at com.velocityme.utility.ChangeDeltaXML which sort of does a mock up of
the xml format and take it from there!<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:37:33 PM)</span></b>: </font>Unless you want
to suggest something else<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:37:49 PM)</span></b>: </font>ok I will do that
then<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:38:20 PM)</span></b>: </font>I was wondering
about cmp today and about how efficient the db code is I wonder where I can
find that info from<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:38:29 PM)</span></b>: </font>That sounds like
you have enough to do then, but don't hesitate to ask and I can give you
more!<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:38:56 PM)</span></b>: </font>mmm I'm not a sucker
for punishment, elephants get eaten in small chunks<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:39:02 PM)</span></b>: </font>Don't know about
cmp efficiency but I don't really want to go intothat issue at the moment,
don't mind if you do but if we have to shift tobmp it will be rather a big
step<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:39:24 PM)</span></b>: </font>I agree, lets get
what we have working and worry about performance later<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:39:44 PM)</span></b>: </font>I dont think we
have to think that drastic I was just thinking for operational purposes<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:40:00 PM)</span></b>: </font>I don't understand
the distinction?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:40:19 PM)</span></b>: </font>in a large scale
env I mean<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:40:35 PM)</span></b>: </font>I think we will
have to discuss this point later!<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:40:36 PM)</span></b>: </font>like which containers
do it better<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:40:53 PM)</span></b>: </font>You mean JBoss vs
something else, or comparing DBs as well?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:41:06 PM)</span></b>: </font>something like that
yes<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:41:24 PM)</span></b>: </font>Again back to my
previous point about lets get this working first, small chunks!<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:41:32 PM)</span></b>: </font>So far it is going
well<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:41:33 PM)</span></b>: </font>kewl I'm with U<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:41:55 PM)</span></b>: </font>What I am going
to try to do in the short term is get user access assignment working<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:42:17 PM)</span></b>: </font>I made a proposal
a while ago for an extention to the spec, do you have it?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:42:33 PM)</span></b>: </font>I will try and get
the system running correctly and then move onto adding the new objects and
yes comment on the new spec<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:42:49 PM)</span></b>: </font>I glanced at it
nothign really looked odd, just why no update case?<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:43:18 PM)</span></b>: </font>I figured we could
just add and delete them. If you cocked up then delete and add a new one.<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:43:19 PM)</span></b>: </font>and look into the
xml for the change deltas<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:43:39 PM)</span></b>: </font>I thought about
that and it did make sense...<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:44:09 PM)</span></b>: </font>If you want to propose
any changes then let me know, otherwise I willgo ahead and try to implement
my original proposal in a couple of days<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:44:11 PM)</span></b>: </font>but I was wondering
if it was right and then I saw that it delt with only one rule at a time
so I thought ok again<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:44:38 PM)</span></b>: </font>Yes, no, yes, no
sounds like is the indicator light working!<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:44:58 PM)</span></b>: </font>Yes, yes, no, I
mean yes yes yes<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:45:18 PM)</span></b>: </font>Good, well if you
do think of anything you want changed then let me know!<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:45:19 PM)</span></b>: </font>I will try not to
comment when youre done developing  <img
 src="chrome://editor/content/images/laughing_n.gif"
 class="moz-txt-smily" height="19" width="19" align="middle">
 <br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:45:35 PM)</span></b>: </font>I don't mind as
long as you donn't expect me to change it<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:45:44 PM)</span></b>: </font>ouuch <img
 src="chrome://editor/content/images/wink_n.gif" class="moz-txt-smily"
 height="19" width="19" align="middle">
<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:46:02 PM)</span></b>: </font> <img
 src="chrome://editor/content/images/smile_n.gif" class="moz-txt-smily"
 height="19" width="19" align="middle">
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<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:46:31 PM)</span></b>: </font>Anyway sounds like
we are both set up with work for the time being so shall we call it a day?<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:46:42 PM)</span></b>: </font>I must admit these
session are quite nice and does put a nice type of pressure to actually work
on the project<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:47:03 PM)</span></b>: </font>yes, fine with me
will see you again sometime<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:47:13 PM)</span></b>: </font>I think that it
is a good idea. Keeps you focussed and also motivatesme more. I was getting
slightly despondent a couple of weeks ago!<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:47:29 PM)</span></b>: </font>me too<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:47:43 PM)</span></b>: </font>Ok then, bye for
now and good luck this evening <img
 src="chrome://editor/content/images/wink_n.gif" class="moz-txt-smily"
 height="19" width="19" align="middle">
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<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:47:47 PM)</span></b>: </font>chow<br>
<font color="#0000ff"><b>barryradloff<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:47:49 PM)</span></b>: </font>and thanks<br>
<font color="#ff0000"><b>rcrida<span class="logtimestamp"
 style="display: none;">(12:47:56 PM)</span></b>: </font>Pleasure, happy
working<br>
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